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#48

Japanese Rebels with David McNeil and Stephen McClure

Japan is often described as a place where the nail that sticks up gets hammered down—but what about the nails that refuse to stay down? In this episode, we speak with scholars and journalists David McNeill and Stephen McClure about their new book, Japanese Rebels: Non-conformists in a Conformist Society, which profiles a number of figures who challenged the prevailing orthodoxies of Japanese politics, religion, art, entertainment, journalism, and social life. The conversation explores openly gay political pioneer Togo Ken, cannabis activist Takagi Saya, artist Rokudenashiko, journalist Ito Shiori, Yoko Ono, Amakusa Shiro, the massive 1960 AMPO protests, and the battle over Narita Airport. Along the way, David and Stephen consider what makes someone a rebel, why not every rebel is a hero, how Japanese society marginalizes dissent, and why work, prosperity, mortgages, and fading historical memory can gradually drain a movement’s rebellious energy. If you like the show, consider supporting us. Every little bit helps keep the lights on. And while you’re at it, join the conversation over on Facebook and follow us on X/Twitter at @DogePunk2077. For inquiries, complaints, spiritual confessions, you may be able to reach us at deep.in.japan.podcast@gmail.com. Then again, you may not. Show supporters, naturally, jump the queue. :)  The musical outro (Hammered Down) can be found here, along with various other Deep in Japan tracks.  Thanks for listening! 
#47

Happy Hour #94: BLACK MIST

This is Happy Hour #94: BLACK MIST The episode opens with Jeff accusing Trevor/Trey of being twelve minutes late, Trevor insisting it was two, and both immediately blaming suspicious waveforms and future audio problems on the other (American punctuality, sanding-induced camera refusal, and early concern about 音質); Jeff congratulates Trey on intermittently reaching ketosis, then reframes keto failure as experimentation rather than shame—recover from a bad meal, identify the breaking point, and resume immediately (graceful failure beats the “fuck it” spiral); Trey recounts a prolonged crash-out involving weight regain, a stubborn plateau, heart-health concerns, quitting hockey, social isolation, and the difficulty of losing weight while training, while Jeff argues that metabolic adaptation may take months and reports that six months of keto helped him lose roughly twelve kilograms, regain pull-ups, carry kettlebells, dead-hang for two minutes, and buy a weighted vest (Piccolo’s weighted cape and boots remain the superior training system); they audit Trey’s meals—four eggs, sausage patties, Costco rotisserie chicken, ground turkey, broccoli, green beans, salsa water, almonds, and macadamias—while Jeff treats eggs as a religion, distrusts every processed ingredient, and proposes increasingly terrible podcast names including Two Guys Zero Carbs, Keto Bros, Steak and Eggs, Deep in Ketosis, and Ketone Maxing (white rice becomes “white weiss,” “two or three” becomes “two tree,” and every meal earns claps); Trey’s real obstacles are sugary caffeine, late-night cravings, inconsistent hydration, and the ten percent of extra bullshit that destroys an otherwise keto-compatible day, but a sleep study reveals apnea and a new CPAP lets him sleep eleven and a half hours, feel awake, work productively, accept the podcast invitation, and publish three articles in three days (the apparent God Mode was sleep, not ketones); this produces the episode’s central philosophy, the Keto Shield: sleep, meditation, fasting, hydration, keto, and exercise arranged as six mutually reinforcing points inside a hexagonal shield (Jeff imagines intersecting divine triangles; Trey insists that hexagons are the bestagons), with sleep as the foundation because poor sleep disrupts hunger, judgment, mood, and every other habit; Trey scores himself 12/30—sleep 4, exercise 5, keto 1, hydration 2, meditation 0, fasting 0—while Jeff lands near 22/30 and challenges him to reach 20 by the next episode (points measure consistency, not mystical meditation quality); they argue that keto makes fasting easier, distinguish strategic social carb meals from total cheat days, joke about Ozempic “stolen valor,” and envision 30/30 as an almost unattainable state of creative, physical, and philosophical superpower; Jeff, newly fifty, says his goal is not merely looking good in a Speedo but thinking clearly, moving without pain, living long enough to play with grandchildren, and avoiding the inflammation, brain fog, intestinal trouble, irritability, and physical decline he felt before recommitting to keto (Trey still considers the Speedo aspirational); a proposed book evolves from The Deep in Japan Diet: How Two Fat Middle-Aged Podcasters Found the Secret to Six-Pack Abs Deep in Japan toward The Keto Shield, complete with an AI-generated cover and a possible steak-dinner six-pack wager; Trey then uncovers a 2014 email showing Jeff beginning keto before their friendship properly started, meaning keto evangelism predates their first mountain climb, Trevor’s lost apartment key, and nearly everything else in their relationship (Jeff says keto relieved years of debilitating allergies, though the discussion remains personal testimony rather than medical proof); good sleep leads into Trevor’s new Deep in Japan articles: Uni, the Japanese Cat presents a satirical interview with an internet-famous cat whose nationalist translator turns meows, blinks, box-sitting, and Roomba hissing into opinions about immigration, globalization, education, national confidence, and Saitama (Uni may simply be a cat); Obachan’s Going to Jail explores elderly Japanese women allegedly committing petty theft to obtain food, healthcare, companionship, work, supervision, and purpose in prison (an eight-dollar onigiri theoretically unlocks tens of thousands of dollars in state support), prompting discussion of aging, poverty, loneliness, prison incentives, paywalls, sourcing “the sauce,” and Japan’s weak yen; with the dollar around ¥163, they discuss the widening divide between people paid in dollars and yen, Jeff’s taxes, Miho’s repaired Vellfire and overlooked alignment, Japan’s gold driving licenses, elderly-driver marks, and locals’ horror when Jeff jokingly displayed one at forty; bumper stickers open a tangent on Japanese political signaling—outdoor-brand stickers, black-and-gold chrysanthemums, uyoku trucks, nationalist four-character slogans, anti-foreigner signage, yak-styled houses as burglary deterrents, and the idea of disguising Jeff’s vehicle as an intimidating right-wing machine (foreigners could theoretically be “erased,” one truck driver at a time); the next article follows a teenage girl who catches a fifty-eight-year-old taking upskirt photos and escorts him to police, leading to debate over whether she physically dragged him, whether train perverts are weak-willed “beta-cuck pajama boys,” and how girls should respond (judo grips, alarms, pointing and shouting “chikan,” direct eye contact, emergency plans, visible hands, or school-issued sasumata); Jeff then recounts witnessing a man violently assault a woman on a station platform during his early Japan years, intervening with limited Japanese—essentially “stop” and “please be gentle”—standing between them while everyone else looked away, then boarding his train only to see the attack resume as the doors closed (fear of violence, deportation, bystander paralysis, lasting regret, and the limits of imperfect intervention); the conversation moves to a ¥1.5-million “human refrigerator,” a wheeled one-person cooling booth inspired by vending machines and designed for construction sites, farms, commutes, concerts, and sports days (ideally paired with fan vests, a cooling hood, fried chicken, and two Gundam buckets of Strong Zero); Jeff mourns the end of his children’s undōkai era and learns that older sports days once had food stalls and drinking, while both imagine privately installing a refrigerator box at the field and watching everyone else roast; the joke turns serious as they discuss Japan’s increasingly dangerous heat, children and elderly people collapsing, air-conditioning in schools, and figures they pull for 2026 showing tens of thousands of ambulance transports and a majority of patients over sixty-five (the missing statistic is heat-stroke deaths among bears); Trey recalls climbing Kyoto’s Fushimi Inari area during a 41°C day in 2019 without enough water, barely reaching his hotel, collapsing in front of the air conditioner, and abandoning the rest of his Kyoto plans (heat plus humidity defeats gaman); a technology tangent covers Claude’s opaque premium-token billing and default model selection, OpenAI’s unnervingly lifelike Japanese voice “Sol,” conversational fillers so natural that it feels like a real woman reminiscing about Oregon, and the possibility that AI will first join and then entirely replace the podcast hosts; they next examine an article about a famous baseball coach whose eighteen-year-old daughter asked ChatGPT what to do after he pushed her down during a family argument, followed ChatGPT’s suggestion to contact a human support service, and was shocked when the service automatically contacted police, leading to his arrest and resignation (ChatGPT connected her to people rather than directly adjudicating the crisis); Japanese media, in their telling, focused less on the father’s behavior or the reporting service and more on AI dependency, the daughter’s regret, and the destruction of a beloved coach’s career, exposing tensions among domestic privacy, victim agency, celebrity loyalty, patriarchal norms, mandatory reporting, and fear of AI (their final position is simple: do not hit your children); a television segment blaming foreign drivers for failing to understand left-side traffic—supposedly inherited from samurai keeping swords from colliding—lets Jeff enjoy being silently judged by his father-in-law while the family’s recently damaged Vellfire sits outside (the driver keeps the center line nearest them; stop being so foreign); they attempt to finish with a Sora News list of Japanese summer words—natsu, umi, suikawari, hiyake, kīn to suru, semi, nyūdōgumo, and hanabi—but condemn it as an incoherent mix of absolute beginner vocabulary and obscure meteorology, then ask AI for a stronger set including natsuzora, aoarashi, kunpū, yūdachi, semishigure, komorebi, enten, nettaiya, and nigemizu (nyūdōgumo, “towering cumulonimbus cloud,” becomes homework Jeff must awkwardly force into conversation); Trevor promises a better Deep in Japan summer-language article while Jeff proposes abandoning English Sora News for Japanese Rocket News and remembers an epic article in which Mr. Sato walked roughly fifty thousand steps, eating treats along the way before apparently continuing to pole dancing (journalistic excellence); baseball terminology extends the episode again: yakyū means field ball, an out is a “death,” recording an out is a “stab kill,” a double play is a “combo kill,” and the leadoff batter is the “shock-troop captain” (plus detours through dead balls, uteruses, semi-double beds, sailor-uniformed nineteenth-century teams, Masaoka Shiki, and Waseda stolen valor); they discover Tadashi Wakabayashi, a Hawaii-born pitcher who played in Japan through the war and became a Hanshin Tigers MVP, then tour Japan’s corporate team names—the Yakult Swallows and umbrella dance, Nippon-Ham Fighters, SoftBank Hawks, Orix Buffaloes, DeNA BayStars, Rakuten Golden Eagles, and Seibu Lions (are they fighting ham, or are they themselves ham?); the Saitama Seibu Lions provide the final revelation: their predecessor was nearly destroyed by the 1969–71 Black Mist scandal, in which organized crime bribed players to throw games, players received lifetime bans, trust and attendance collapsed, and the franchise eventually relocated and rebranded, only to suffer a later secret-recruiting-money scandal (Saitama crime jokes unexpectedly become historical research); “Black Mist” consequently becomes a philosophy and verb—going full Black Mist, going rogue, embracing the mist, and “going Saitama on that ass”—as they revisit years of allegations that Saitama is poor, criminal, unfashionable, spiritually hollow, owned by mobsters, riddled with hell pits, and equipped with drainage tunnels designed to flush the prefecture into the sea (Tonde Saitama and its sequel prove Japan enjoys the joke too, inspiring a possible paid, legal watch-along); the exhausted ending returns to the Keto Shield, with Jeff demanding Trey rise from 12 to 20, promising a meditation book, defending his legitimately purchased digital keto book against Saitama piracy, and adding Tenga as the shield’s hidden seventh-dimensional spear (medication, hydration, meditation, masturbation); they promote the Deep in Japan blog, Etsy shirts, and Trevor’s forthcoming Toto washlet—$1,400 for eventual entry into civilization—while briefly recalling Trevor’s 音質 article, in which Jeff attains sandan in the art of audio quality through spectrograms, coffee, and unanswered Discord complaints about Trevor eating chips during intros; finally, Jeff announces that an underground hip-hop track called “Black Mist” will play them out, Trevor warns that his recording has been visibly ticking for nearly five hours, and the episode ends with steak hunger, mind-Toto purification, Black Mist philosophy, Saitama validation, and one last piece of audio for Jeff to clean up (four hours and forty-seven minutes of maniac shit). Sauce/References: Deep in Japan blog & articles Man in Japan calls in bomb threat because he doesn’t want to go to his own work farewell party Eight great words for talking about summer in Japan in Japanese Foreign hiker on Mt. Fuji loses consciousness and dies, becoming climbing season’s second fatality 99-year-old woman rescued while attempting to climb Mt. Fuji “Stab-kill for two deaths” and other fun Japanese baseball terms A donut and sugar-loving bear in Japan is breaking into homes, checking fridges for sweet snacks Japan now has human refrigerators inspired by Japanese vending machines Mass murder plot stopped by friend of Akihabara mass murderer Teen girl in Japan refuses to be victim, personally escorts train pervert to police for arrest Trevor’s idea of a keto meal Uniuni the Cat Face lettuce appears in Japan Japanaese jackets with electric fans Former Giants manager’s daughter consulted ChatGPT before reporting altercation Outro Song: "Black Mist"  Enjoying the show? Consider supporting us. Every little bit helps keep this magnificent shitshow lurching forward. And while you’re at it, join the conversation over on Facebook, and follow us on X/Twitter at @DogePunk2077. For inquiries, complaints, spiritual confessions, legal threats, guest pitches, or reasonably coherent messages, you may be able to reach us at deep.in.japan.podcast@gmail.com. Then again, you may not. Show supporters, naturally, jump the queue—so if you’re one of the blessed few, The Chosen, be sure to mention that at the top of your message for maximal response potential. Thanks for listening! 
#46

NAGASAKI: The Last Witnesses

Historian M. G. Sheftall returns to discuss Nagasaki: The Last Witnesses, the second volume of his Embers series documenting the atomic bombings through military history and the testimony of the hibakusha who survived them. The conversation places Nagasaki within the wider escalation of the Pacific War—from precision bombing to incendiary attacks on cities—and reconstructs the troubled mission that carried the atomic bomb from its original target, Kokura, to Nagasaki. Sheftall recounts the mechanical failures, bad weather and split-second decisions that culminated in the destruction of Urakami, the centre of Japan’s largest Catholic community. The episode also explores the survivors’ experiences, the political struggle over Japan’s surrender, and why Hiroshima became the dominant international symbol of nuclear war while Nagasaki receded from public memory. Finally, Sheftall considers what may change as the last living witnesses disappear—and as memories of Hiroshima and Nagasaki exert less influence over debates about Japanese pacifism and constitutional revision. Here is a full list of his books and links to purchase:  Hiroshima: The Last Witnesses (Amazon US & Amazon Japan) The first volume of the Embers series, built around the testimony of Hiroshima’s surviving witnesses. Nagasaki: The Last Witnesses (Amazon US & Amazon Japan) The second and concluding volume of the Embers series, recounting the bombing of Nagasaki and its aftermath through survivor testimony. Blossoms in the Wind: Human Legacies of the Kamikaze (Amazon US & Amazon Japan) An oral history examining the lives, experiences, and legacies of Japan’s kamikaze pilots. The outro song was Kyōkun I (教訓Ⅰ) by Kagawa Ryō (加川良), a Japanese antiwar folk song that rejects the demand that ordinary people surrender their lives to the state. You can listen to the track and reference English lyrics here.  Enjoying the show? Consider supporting us. Every little bit helps keep this magnificent shitshow lurching forward. And while you’re at it, join the conversation over on Facebook, and follow us on X/Twitter at @DogePunk2077. For inquiries, complaints, spiritual confessions, legal threats, guest pitches, or reasonably coherent messages, you may be able to reach us at deep.in.japan.podcast@gmail.com. Then again, you may not. Show supporters, naturally, jump the queue—so if you’re one of the blessed few, The Chosen, be sure to mention that at the top of your message for maximal response potential. Thanks for listening! 
#45

HIROSHIMA: The Last Witnesses

On August 6, 1945, at 8:15 in the morning, the United States dropped an atomic bomb on Hiroshima. Tens of thousands of people were killed almost immediately, and an estimated 140,000 were dead by the end of the year. For the survivors—the hibakusha—the physical, psychological, and social consequences continued for decades. Eighty-one years later, we remember Hiroshima through a conversation with historian and author M.G. Sheftall about his extraordinary book, Hiroshima: The Last Witnesses. Drawing on years of interviews with hibakusha, Sheftall reconstructs the city before the bombing, the experiences of those who were there, and the long aftermath that followed. The result is a devastating but deeply humane work of history—one that takes Hiroshima out of the realm of statistics and geopolitical argument and restores the individual people beneath the mushroom cloud. We discuss the responsibility involved in preserving these memories, the trust Sheftall developed with the survivors he interviewed, and what their testimony can teach us as Hiroshima passes from living memory into history. M.G. Sheftall is a historian and professor of modern Japanese cultural history and communication at Shizuoka University. He has lived in Japan since 1987 and holds a PhD in international relations and modern Japanese history from Waseda University. He is the author of the two-volume Embers series—Hiroshima: The Last Witnesses and Nagasaki: The Last Witnesses—as well as Blossoms in the Wind: Human Legacies of the Kamikaze. Here is a full list of his books and links to purchase:  Hiroshima: The Last Witnesses (Amazon US & Amazon Japan) The first volume of the Embers series, built around the testimony of Hiroshima’s surviving witnesses. Nagasaki: The Last Witnesses (Amazon US & Amazon Japan) The second and concluding volume of the Embers series, recounting the bombing of Nagasaki and its aftermath through survivor testimony. Blossoms in the Wind: Human Legacies of the Kamikaze (Amazon US & Amazon Japan) An oral history examining the lives, experiences, and legacies of Japan’s kamikaze pilots. Enjoying the show? Consider supporting us. Every little bit helps keep this magnificent shitshow lurching forward. And while you’re at it, join the conversation over on Facebook, and follow us on X/Twitter at @DogePunk2077. For inquiries, complaints, spiritual confessions, legal threats, guest pitches, or reasonably coherent messages, you may be able to reach us at deep.in.japan.podcast@gmail.com. Then again, you may not. Show supporters, naturally, jump the queue—so if you’re one of the blessed few, The Chosen, be sure to mention that at the top of your message for maximal response potential. Thanks for listening! 
#44

The Translator’s Life: Motoyuki Shibata on MONKEY, Fiction, and Language

Note: This episode originally aired in November 2021. My guest today is Motoyuki Shibata, one of Japan’s most celebrated translators of American literature and a hugely important figure in the world of literary exchange between Japan and the English-speaking world. Shibata is Professor Emeritus at the University of Tokyo, an essayist, editor, scholar, and award-winning translator whose work has helped introduce generations of Japanese readers to some of the most distinctive voices in American fiction. Over the course of his career, he has translated writers such as Paul Auster, Steven Millhauser, Stuart Dybek, Rebecca Brown, Brian Evenson, Kelly Link, Laird Hunt, Thomas Pynchon, and many others. His translations are not simply acts of linguistic conversion; they are literary performances in their own right, helping expand what contemporary Japanese prose can sound like. He is also central to the story of MONKEY, the Japanese literary journal he runs, and MONKEY: New Writing from Japan, its English-language offspring. Through MONKEY, Shibata has helped create a lively bridge between Japanese and international literary worlds, bringing together fiction, essays, poetry, manga, translation, and conversations across cultures. In this conversation, we talk about his life in translation, the writers who shaped him, the philosophy behind his work, and the pleasure and difficulty of carrying literature from one language into another. We also get into MONKEY, his role as an editor and curator of contemporary writing, and some more personal reflections on reading, travel, language, and the life behind the work. It was a real honor to speak with someone who has done so much to open doors between Japanese and American literature, and I’m very happy to bring this conversation back to listeners.